Oscars Overload S2E8

On today’s show, we’re finally finishing the entirety of our Oscars coverage with our reactions to the big night, all of the winners and losers, and more importantly, the winners and losers in our own in-house competition. 

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

It's the pop culture show with Cult Classic Swagger. This is Inglorious Brothers. I'm Matt Harper, and together with my brother Justin, we dive into the deep end of the Zeitgeist each week to bring you cool talk and hot takes. No genre is too specific, no topic too broad, and no rabbit hole too deep as we open our minds and enjoy each other's company. Sound good? Then let's ride.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Hello and welcome to Inglorious Brothers. I'm Justin and I'm here with Matt. And on today's show, we're finally putting the nail in the coffin of movie awards season with our reactions to the recent Academy Awards ceremony. We'll assess the winners and losers both on stage in Los Angeles and on this podcast as well. And that latter portion ain't gonna be pretty, at least not for you and I, as we saw a dark horse, co-productor, and guest of the show put a heart in on us. So stick around and we'll be right back with one last Ultimate Endgame, Nomas, final conversation about the Oscars. Welcome to the show. Uh we don't typically put little uh little beginnings on our shows, but we felt it necessary. Um, as you're gonna see here in just a second, we uh will be wearing different clothes and recording at night and here uh in just uh a few. So um we are have decided to do a full rebrand for our pop culture podcast, and we are naming it Inglorious Brothers. Um we just felt that our messages were kind of getting muddied by the way we were doing it, and have decided to just completely separate our two podcasts entirely. We will have Beyond the Slipstream, our cycling podcast, we will have Inglorious Brothers, our pop culture podcast, and that way they can live in their own places and be their own things and uh not be as confusing as we feel they are. And hopefully that'll help us gain traction with listeners on both sides of those podcasts because we really do feel that they are probably very different people. Hopefully there'll be some overlap, but very likely that you know one will appeal to one set of people and one will appeal to a different set of people.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Yeah, uh it's it's it's the second half of a of an overall kind of kind of re-reshaping of of what we're doing here. We've gone back to our original name for our cycling podcast, and we've come up with a new name for our pop culture podcast, Inglorious Brothers. No doubt our listeners will get the reference, uh, so we need not uh spell it out. Uh, but we're happy with the name, um, we're happy with our our new look for this show, and uh we're excited to move on to uh a new chapter in our developing a podcast story.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

So on that note, I enjoy the show. So the Oscars were Sunday night, and this is like the first time in many, many years that I have actually been invested in the Oscars. This is by far the most Oscar-nominated movies that I've watched like ahead of the Oscars for a year, you know, any given year, probably in my lifetime. Um, but I have to say, like, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Like it made it much more enjoyable. I know this is a a thing that is um always on your radar and something that you to tend to do every year, and and so I kind of glommed on with that. And uh I had a remarkable time and I watched some really, really good films.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Uh yeah, I mean, I've only been like actually like sort of recording pics now for a couple of years, um sort of in line with like a few of the podcasts that I've listened to. Um but yeah, I've been I've been leaning into into my my movie, my cine, my cinophilia uh a lot in the last couple of years. Um trying to, you know, record a lot of new a lot of films on on my letterboxed account. Um, and I am in complete agreement. This was fun as heck. Like I enjoyed the living daylights out of this thing. Um, I think it's probably the same kind of same kind of vibes you'd get if you were like way into football and your team went to the Super Bowl and you were playing fantasy all year long and you know, just that kind of thing, you know, really invested in it. It's a it's a bit of a challenge to watch all those movies. It's fun to talk about the Oscar race and to watch the fallout from all the other award shows and stuff. It's just a fun thing to track and be a part of. Um, and you and you, you know, you can participate very actively in it because you got to watch all the movies in order to weigh in and have an opinion. So um not only was the run-up to the event really, really fun, but the event itself was really fun. I mean, just watching along and keep tracking your predictions. And you know, we had our little group chat going with Me, you and Mark, who picked with us on our show last week. Um, and then of course I was watching it with the wife and kids, and there was some stuff in there for kids. I mean, my kids came alive when like the when like the uh the K-pop demon hunters stuff came on and golden, they were singing along with the song, and even though I have I have stuff to say about the golden and all that, but uh that was really cool. My wife was really into it. We made a nice dinner.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

I mean, I have to say, like, oh my god, what a catchy friggin' song that is.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Oh yeah, but they didn't they didn't let them play the whole song at the show.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

They didn't do I don't think they did a the whole song for anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Well, they just did the sinner song, it was the other one that they did. And uh yeah, that one, I don't know, that seemed a little bit more involved, but anyways, it's neither here nor there. Um, it was great. The wife and kids loved it. It was just fun, so fun to just I mean, uh to me, it went by like very quickly. Like that show did not seem to drag on, even though it can be kind of draggy uh at times. Um I mean they managed to get through 24 awards. That's the total. We didn't pick all of them in our picks, as we'll get into more, but I believe that there are a total of 23 awards presented on on the or 24 awards presented on the on the show each year. Up from 23 last year because they just added one.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

It was three and a half hours, and it didn't feel like three and a half hours at all. Yeah. Like I I I honestly, I'm gonna be uh just pull back the curtain a little bit. I thought the red carpet started at seven. And so I turned it on at like seven oh six thinking it was gonna be you know red carpet, and it's uh you know, the always affable Conan O'Brien in Amy Madigan's wig from from weapons. And I'm like, oh shit, this is like this is already going. So like I, you know, had to had to immediately lock in, and uh and so I I missed the very, very beginning of it, the first like probably five minutes, and sadly I'll I'm sure I'll go back and watch it at some point.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Um but let's I mean let's just jump into it right there then. I mean, you're you know, that's the the opening of the opening of the thing, yeah?

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Um I mean they kind of did a classic sort of sort of Billy Crystal style bit with uh Conan sort of sort of weaving himself into into most of the best picture nominees. You know, he's he's immediately dressed as uh as the Amy Madigan character character from Weapons, which was not nominated for Best Picture, or was it? No, yeah, that was that was one of the snubs. Um but uh obviously that character was nominated and won very shortly after the show show began. Um but uh yeah, he went through he went through Marty Supreme and he went through Sinners and he went through uh did he go through one battle? Yeah, he went through one battle and um it's just uh kind of a funny bit, you know. Conan, of course, has got the great face, such a great face. Um and uh so it was a fun way to open the show, and then that that led on to his monologue. Um what'd you think of the monologue?

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Um I don't know. I always feel like these things are so hard to get perfect, but as it was as good as it could be. I'm glad that he called out certain things and you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

I mean, I mean he got off he got off several really good jokes, I thought. Yeah. I mean he opened with like the opera ballet joke and they cut to Timothy Chalamet just like right off the bat. All right, Timmy. Not not not only is your movie not gonna win a single Oscar Award tonight, but we're gonna be gone after you.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Um he uh he he mentioned the night for for Timothy Chalamet.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah, Timothy Chalamet. Um he mentioned the alternate Oscars that were being hosted by Kid Rock. I thought that was funny.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

That was very funny.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

I was he went he went straight at Ted Sarandos, the the Netflix captain, uh, saying it was his first time ever being in a theater.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Where did he where did he say that they were holding the alternative Oscars?

SPEAKER_01 9:24

It was also funny. It was someplace funny and I I forgot to make a note of it. Um he said he said Hamnet and Begonia sounded like off-brand lunch meat.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Yeah, that was good. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

He said he said he said that uh that that uh Hamnet opened with um opened with uh Jesse Buckley uh birthing a child in the woods, or as we call it, affordable health care. Um that was funny. And he went after Bezos and said that an uh Amazon Studios was not nam nominated, and then the joke that he made after that was kind of clunky, but it was still good that he was going after them.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah, he was going after why is my why is my delivery service, you know, trying to make movies.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Right. And then he said uh and then he said the Brits didn't fare very well um throughout award season, but they said, hey, at least they arrest their pedophiles.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Um which good on him for saying, because it's fucking true.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

And then they they ended the whole thing with uh with Conan canonizing himself. Guy pops up, dresses the Pope, he gives him a blessing, and then Conan blesses him back, and then he he climbs to the top of the mountain. He's like, Cicero, my Oscar! Owl flies in. That was pretty funny. I was I was cracking up. Like that was you know, it wasn't just like mind-bendingly funny, but it was good. It did the job.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

That's why I say it's so hard. I feel like it's so hard to for those things to ever be really perfect because some of the jokes are gonna fall flat. Because some of the, you know, some of the jokes despite working them over and over and over and over again, they're going to fall flat because they've been worked over and over and over again. Because you've you've tried to hone in the funny so precisely that sometimes you f you realize that you you you know it's it's oh wait, it's not as funny as we thought it was. But I think you know, he does a good job and and he is a good host in in the sense like I having real hosts, like talk show hosts hosting it, is always good. I I mean I don't know that in my memory that I will ever think that anybody did as gr good a job as Billy Crystal used to do, you know, because I I feel like he's the gold standard at the Oscars, but uh, you know, he did it he does a very good job.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Yeah, and they also brought Kimmel out, who's done it a couple of times here in the past few years and you know is part of the family there at the network. So um, you know, and Kimmel Kimmel did good, you know, like he's he's very capable as well. So um Kimmel k Kimmel did what s many of the uh many of the people that were presenting did, which is which is, and I think this is smart the way they do that, the way they would group awards together, like they would give like best documentary short, and then they would give the best documentary. You know, they would give best uh you know animated short, best animated feature. Um, that to me makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

I think that's how they're able to get through that many awards in such short order.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

Exactly. Exactly. And this and next year, like, you know, again, the benefit of hindsight, learning curve, etc. Like next year, number one, I definitely want to to to make picks in all of the categories for the entire night. I want to like going into it, I want to make sure that we all have a ballot where we're we're picking every single one of them. Number two, I think it'd be fun to bring in like a fourth person to make picks as well. Um and then uh and then um what was the other thing I was gonna say? Uh I lost my train of thought. Um well, and then start a little bit earlier. Like, because we did our well, I guess we did we do we do our reaction I guess we did do a reaction show to the nominations, right? So that was that was January 31st. I don't know, maybe if we if we just make it a make more of an effort to get like all of the films seen, you know, like sort of like the ones that we know are gonna be nominated or something, just so that after the nominations are are public, we can we can turn our attention to to just zeroing in on the stuff that we would not have even been able to guess was going to be nominated, you know, the the the the short, the animated shorts and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

You know, Mark is apparent Mark is apparently the expert, so like he should be the one to be like, you need to go see this movie.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, um, and I do want to see that movie that he recommended last week when we watched the trailer together or whatever. Um, all right, so first award, first big award, you know, right off the bat, Zoe Soldana comes out to present Best Supporting Actress, um, and we get the the Amy Madigan win with her like rambling, kind of, kind of funny speech, but kind of lighthearted. Cut to cut to her head.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Shouts out, shouts out her husband.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Yeah, cut to cut to Ed Harris, who apparently was nominated uh for directing Pollock. Did not know that. He was the director of Pollock and got a nomination there, but he still hasn't doesn't have a win.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Um deserved is is the word I will use. She was my should win, but I I really thought they were gonna give it to Tayana Taylor, and I'm very happy that she won. She absolutely deserved it. She embodied that character. Um, and it was great to see them recognize her body of work and the really, really great job she did being a disgusting character.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Um yeah, I didn't realize you had her as your should win. Um that was I was I was one for one at that point, feeling real good. You were down, I was already up on you one-nothing. Uh after the first one, I'm feeling good.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

So you picked Madigan?

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yeah. Yeah so uh so I was one and oh. Um things were off to uh a just a fine start for me. Um in between the her and the next one, which was I think uh Will Arnett and Channy Tatum uh presenting for Best Animated Feature, you had the uh you had Conan saying that they were broadcasting from He has a Small Penis Theater.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Um and you also had the Lynn Cim try to put his name on that.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Yeah. And then you had the you had the That was a good joke. Yeah, and you had the Jane Lynch bit where she was like doing the commercial interruption.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

That was because it's gonna be on YouTube in like a year.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Right. And they were they they hammered that joke a couple of times, including at the very end as well, when when they took Conan's Forever host thing off of the door and they put on Mr. Beast. That was funny. Um so uh yeah, so you had Will Arnett and Channy Tatum uh presenting best animated feature, um, and they also did best animated short. My daughter, Harmony, called Best Animated Short. Like after they ran through the nominee, she was like, oh, it's gonna be whatever it was. I can't remember what it was. Uh something was it? I don't know if uh Singers. Singers? No. No, no, that was that was no, that was oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Singers, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

No, Singers was the one where there was a tie. That was that was feature, feature short, feature short. Yeah. Um I can't remember which one it was, but she called it like like no question about it, totally nonchalant, and it was it. Um I don't believe I put in a uh a guess on that one, did I?

SPEAKER_00 17:08

So yester so yesterday, by the way, and I didn't I forgot to tell you this, I ended up watching Zootopia 2 and Elio yesterday. Like I my niece was over, and so I was like laying on the couch with her. And uh we we um I threw those two movies on back to back and watched them. I kind of dozed through both of them a little bit, but um I I'm I am now even more shocked that Elio did I mean K-pop Demon Hunters were supposed to just be a spectacular, like epic type of event movie um for Elio not to have won, because that has got like that hits all the things. The aliens, you know, like a legal of the illegal kind, and uh, you know, like family drama, you know, it's like a lot of a lot of different notes. And Zootopia 2 is very good with a huge cast. So I, you know, both of those movies are pretty darn good.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Let's keep the focus on the show itself if we can, just because I know we're gonna we're gonna take too long here. Um, I thought Arnett and Tatum uh were kind of funny together. Both of those guys have excellent comedic chops. Um and in comparison to some of the other ones that came out, like they were way better. Um so uh I believe right after that we got the Sinners musical number. So super dope. I thought it was so dope. Like the way the camera movement in that thing, it was very like Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar Super Bowl vibes. Um, you know, the way that the the camera work has become so dynamic with the with the incredible steady cams we have we have now. Um and the way that just like like all the archetypal characters that were in that scene from the movie were like right there. Kind of recreated that amazing scene in a in a live action very, very well. Yeah, super impressive. I will definitely be going back um to to check that out again in more detail. I really, really want to want to take a hard look at that. Uh, but yeah, yeah, I think we're in agreement that that was fantastic. Um after that you got the you got the chalomet bum drum. Remember the chalomet bum drum? That was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

Yeah, it's all right. Wow, what I here's what I will say about the pro about the production. Um Matt Barry as the as the voice of the as the narrator I don't know, the narrator, I guess. I don't know what you would consider. The guy that's doing the announcements and yeah. That's Matt Berry, dude. Matt Berry is hilarious. He's from Matt Berry is from what he he's in most recently what we do in the shadows, a show I keep telling you you need to watch because it's fucking hysterical. Um but he he just he's you know, he's just one of those guys that pops up, but he's got a great voice. I mean the dude has just a tremendous British voice. And I loved the fact that they had him as the announcer. Um yeah, uh and after that was was the tie.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Well no, I think before that you uh was it the tie right after that?

SPEAKER_00 20:25

I'm pretty sure that it was the tie, though very shortly after that.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

So that was so that was Kamale, right? Kamal Nanjami uh presenting on that one. And uh big big picture podcast did their recap thing. I I listened to it this morning and they were talking about how like because like the presenters don't know who wins um when they when they do that. And so they're thinking that like he must have opened that envelope up and literally read something that said, before you announce the winner, you need to tell them, tell the audience that there is a tie. Because like he did a really good job. He's like, here's how it's gonna go down, folks. There there's a tie in this category. Yeah, one one group is going to come up, they are going to give their speech, they're going to sit down, I'm going to announce the other one, they are going to come up. Apparently, there was a tie, like it's it's been like 13 years since the last time there was a tie, but there have been ties before. So I guess it's a pure numbers thing, and this just happens sometimes. Um, but that was interesting for sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

I didn't realize you could tie.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Yeah, it was it was it was weird, but I don't know. It was interesting, and Kumal handled himself quite well with that. Um, around this time, you also got Anne Hathaway and Anna Winter um in easily the two fiercest looks of the night, like they both looked so badass.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Um and then they were Anne Hathaway asked her how she was how she looked, and she just went right into the nominee's arm. That was just terrible.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Used it, they used her perfectly. She did not have to do a lot of heavy lifting um in the thing, but the line she got off it was that, and then the other line was when she called her Emily. She's confusing her with Emily Blunt. Obviously, this is all tied into the upcoming Devil Wears Prada 2. So um, but yeah, they use her really, really well. Um, the uh presentation for casting, I loved how they did that where they had one actor from each of the five nominated movies come out and talk about that casting director. It's really cool. Um by now the tide had turned on on my ballot. I was things are starting to things are starting to go sideways for me on these ballots. Uh meanwhile, meanwhile, Mark is just nailing just just pick after pick after pick after pick. It was incredible.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Um what was uh so the one one note I did want to say about the the the the tie. Um those guys getting uh was it them that got cut off?

SPEAKER_01 23:10

No, it was uh it was k it was K-pop demon hunters that got cut off brutally.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

No, no, no, no, where they like took the mic down? That wasn't it? I thought it was the tie. And they like it came back up and and Conan O'Brien made a made a comment about it.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Oh, the joke that he made, he was like, he was like um what did he say?

SPEAKER_00 23:34

He was like super brutal, but it was funny.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Well, at one point though, after the after the tie, he said, you you thanks, you've just ruined 22 million Oscar pools.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yes, that was a good one too.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

So um I think the absolute lamest worst everything moment award of the night, etc., was Sean Penn. Kieran Culkin comes out, he's not funny, he gets called called Sean Penn out, too. Yeah, he's like, and the winner is not here tonight, Sean Penn. I'll just accept it for him, and he walks off. Like it was just like moment over. Can't believe you've got Delroy Lindo sitting right there, you've got Stellan Skarsgard sitting right there, and you're gonna give it to Sean fucking Penn for his third Oscar. The fucker's not even there. Like, sorry, they should have called an audible on that. When they saw that Sean Penn wasn't there, I was alright, I would have no problem with the Academy being like, fuck that guy. We're giving it to somebody else. This is bullshit. I thought that was fucking weak sauce. I I hated that. Yep, absolutely hated that.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Worst, worst award of the night. They got it wrong, in my opinion. I mean, don't get me wrong. His his performance was was remarkable. But as you said on our show, it was a cartoon character. And Mark called it though. Mark had that as a win.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Mark nailed it, and he did. I mean, the guy's uh the guy's got a sixth sense or something. Um, shortly after that, you got Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans uh presenting best adapted screenplay. They were so dumb, like they were just dumb. Yeah. And I think there's some kind of Marvel something or other coming up, and I think that's why they were out there together.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

It's more the doom, the doomsday, Avengers Doomsday, and they're both gonna be in it, and that's why Downey was in green because he's playing Doctor Doom.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Gotcha. Well, it was uh that that that was that was pretty lame, but then I think they grouped up adapted screenplay and original, and right here you got to see like the the big split, the big story for the rest of the night, which was which was uh P. T. Anderson comes out and accepts a best adapted screenplay and wins his first Oscar Award ever. And then three minutes later, Ryan Kugler is on stage, accepting his first and in his case, only Oscar of the evening. Uh P. T. Anderson, as we will see, came back up, came came back on stage more than once. Um, this was Kugler's only Oscar, but he got it. You know, he's got an uh Ryan Kugler has an Oscar uh for best for best original screenplay. Um and he he was he was a great presence on the evening as well.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

It seemed like the whole auditorium was all about that movie. Every time Sinners was announced for anything, it was the biggest applause and loudest noise for sure, every time.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

And I was on my ballot, I was basically, I mean, that's why my ballot went so wrong, is because I was I was I I had it on my at least as far as my picks were concerned, I had it five to three sinners to uh one battle. And as it turned out, I think the the final for the full show was like seven to four, I think, sin uh one battle to sinners. So um, but yeah, it definitely came down to a big a big punching match between the two of them. Yeah. One battle came out on the uh winning side of it. Um, but we're getting ahead of ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Uh after this how did you feel about the in memoriam the that started with the Rob Reiner?

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Yeah, that's what we were just getting what what I was just getting to as well. Uh I thought it was good. I thought they the I was a little surprised. I mean, I kind of I don't know, do you put Robert Duvall on the same level as as uh Diane Keaton? I do. I I I can see I can see the case for Rob Reiner because he's like one of the all-time greatest directors ever. And when you couple that with like sort of the tragedy of his death, um then also I can put I can put Robert Redford up there because Robert Redford started Sundance. Robert Redford like like started a revolution in in movies in a way, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 27:55

Um especially for indie film.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Now I'm gonna I here and I'm gonna I'm gonna here's my take on this. All right. I think that it's because he died so recently that they just didn't they probably just didn't have time to because I'm sure that these those those bits are planned out well in advance.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Yeah. Yeah, I mean I they're probably but these are professional writers and actors, like they could they could put something together.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

I agree. But at some point you have to you it sucks that he's a footnote in that broadcast. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Yeah, but I mean you gotta draw the line at some point. I I I get that. I mean, we also had Gene Hackman, he could just as easily have been up there. I mean, I would say, and then also David Lynch. I mean, as as great as as conventionally great as Rob Reiner is, I mean, David Lynch is as much of a an absolute like stone cold legend and one of the great directors of all times as well. So you gotta you gotta cap it someplace.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Um what did you what did you think of Babs, man? I thought she did a wonderful job, man. It was wild.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I mean, she sh her her 80 plus years are definitely showing, and yet at the same time, when you listen to that voice coming out of her, that woman can still sing. You know, it's it's not it's not the same powerful voice she had 30 years ago, but she can sing. She's still got a really nice vibrato and really cool. She can still command a room. Yep, absolutely. I mean, she's beloved. So um, and you know what, Rachel McAdams, she's fantastic as well. The little anecdote she told about like Diane Keaton like singing this song from uh from Girl Scouts, was it? Was it a Girl Scout song that she would sing on the on the set of the movie that they did together? I thought that was a very touching little detail.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Oh, and how about her little joke about her wearing mini hats? I thought that was beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Yeah, absolutely. So uh I think they did it really well with that section of the show. Um and then uh sometime shortly after that, we got the we got the bridesmaids reunion, which I love.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

That's weird. I I loved it too, but it was very strange. Like I went. Why is that move? Why is that move? Why do we care about that movie 15 years later?

SPEAKER_01 30:05

I because it's like one of the funniest movies ever made, but I I think the real reason is because you already had a lot of the people that were in that movie sitting in the audience. I mean, you had you had you had Roseburn nominated for an Academy Award, you had Maya Rudolph's husband winning three Academy Awards. That's two of the five right there. Um who's she married to? Paul Thomas Anderson. Oh, I didn't even realize that. I didn't put that together at all. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you had two of the five. I thought it was interesting because I watched the recap of the actor awards. Did you watch the recap of the actors or did you watch the actor? I feel like you were you had seen some of it or something. Um what, the Screen Actors Guild? Yeah, the actors, as they're called now. Um, well, on that show, they had an office lady. They had like a reunion of the women from the office. So Ellie Kemper was up there as well. It was just kind of weird seeing her doing two walk-on bits in two different award shows as a member, as a female member of an ensemble, but they were two different ensembles. Like that's just kind of that was just kind of funny. That way, that's a that's a weird award season for for Ellie Kemper. Um but uh a funny bit that I I thought there they were like that was the one where they were like taking they were sort of taking fake questions from the audience and then making it like took like multiple shots at Stellan Skarsgard of all of all people, right? And some Leo DiCaprio as well. Yeah. Um so yeah, I thought that was cool. And then to be quite honest, like my notes sort of tail off from here. I don't know how hard you're taking notes from this point.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

One of the things that one of the things that happened after that was Lionel Ritchie came out to to do the the best song. Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

And that man does not look his 70 whatever years that he must be at this point.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

I about my I about fell on the floor when he said, I stood here 40 years ago and won an Oscar. It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean that's 40.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

He's either had some work or he's got the best genetics of all time.

SPEAKER_00 32:08

Four decades.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Four decades and and he it was when he won his Oscar. That's absolutely insane. Right. And he's spry.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Like he's like, he's like he's jogging up on stage.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Yeah, it's just like, hey, good.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

What's up, baby?

SPEAKER_00 32:22

Um final version. But but yeah, I my my no on my notes uh pretty much cease there. So let's why don't we just go, why don't we just run down through the winners?

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Um so we'll well for that one, best original song. Of course, we had we had golden. Um, so so K-pop demon hunters completed their sweep. They had two awards and they got them both. Best best animated feature and best original song. Uh, and good. It was a that was an entire phenomenon. Uh, it was great to um have something that the children could hook into. Uh I as I said earlier, I absolutely loved watching this with the whole family. And like my kids were on the iPads 90% of the time, but at different moments, you know, they saw stuff they recognized, they perked up, they watched it, and I love the fact that we did that, and I'm gonna be pushing that agenda, you know, every year for the next for the foreseeable future.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

How happy were you that your documentary won?

SPEAKER_01 33:23

That was wild. That was I I was really, really shocked, and of course, like it was bittersweet for me because I didn't pick it to win. I mean, it was my it was my should win. But uh yeah, it was I mean, I give the guy props for making a political statement in his speech. He was one of the one of the few places where people really got into to much politics, but good on him for that. And uh, as I said, like some of my podcasters had very mixed feelings on that on that one. Big picture hated that whole category, basically, uh this year. But yeah, it was it was wild.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

So Jesse Buckley gets best actress, which I think we all agreed was gonna happen. And then I I feel like the the shock of the night was Michael B. Jordan, man, winning best actor.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yeah, yeah. And there was so so much love in the room for him. Um I think he managed to come across as as very humble with that. I loved how he shouted out.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

I don't think he thought for a second he was gonna win that. He had to know somewhat. I d I'm telling you, man, I feel like his his reaction was very genuinely shocked because he was up against some super heavyweights.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Yeah, I thought Jesse Buckley's was a little bit more like kind of obviously put on a little bit. She had to put on a little bit more for to seem surprised.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Like there's no way we all made a great argument for Ethan Hawke to win that award, and he was going up against DiCaprio, who gave a tremendous like the clip. One of the things that I will say about the whole the overall production, the clips they pick are friggin' the best. But he he had like DiCaprio's little clip for Best Actor was the thing where he's like going down that where d uh Benicio del Toro is like going down the hatch and he's like, he's like sensei and he's like says that whatever. Yeah, viva la revolution. And like that takes you right back into the moment of that movie, and and I'm like, oh man, he really was great in that fucking movie, man. And like the other I couldn't tell you how many times after watching a a particular clip, I was like, you know what, that could he could win. Like he could win. But I didn't, I didn't I just didn't see Michael B. Jordan winning. I just didn't see it like I just didn't I I I could see him winning it at some point. I just didn't see him winning it last night. And uh he had a sweet little moment with um with uh what's uh Jesse Clemens. Like as he was walking off the stage, he like he like turned around and like gave a little little you know to Jesse Clemens because they were in Friday Night Lights, the TV show together years ago.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um yeah, that was great. Um Je Jesse Buckley um had the had an absolutely stunning look. I just wanted to shout out her look. I adored I adored like her her dress and styling. Um and uh yeah, her speech was fine. Um we knew she was gonna win. I thought it was cool to see the first ever cinematography academy award to a f to a uh a woman whose name I did not make a note of, but um it was the woman that won for uh One Battle.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

No, One Battle did not win.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

She won for Sinners?

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Right. Um let me see if I wrote her name. I did not. Yeah, she won for Sinners. Um and of course Mark picked it. Neither one of us did. Um some others, uh Frankenstein uh did quite well below the line by picking up, I think, three Oscars, right?

SPEAKER_00 37:18

They got Frankenstein got costume um production design, costume design, and I think it might have gotten hair, hair, and hair and fire. Um which we didn't have. That was another category we didn't have.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Right, yeah, we definitely need to add that. Um One Battle took editing. Did uh did F did F1 win anything? I don't think F1 won.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Yes, no, F1 definitely won um. They definitely won one of the the visual effects, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

They did. I didn't make a note of it. It wasn't one of the ones that they definitely won a single Oscar. We all nailed that.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

I'm pretty sure it was the visual effects Oscar.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

No, no, Avatar won visual effects, and we all got that one right. I don't think F1 won anything.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

I thought they did. I thought they won one.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Oh, maybe sound. Maybe sound.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Yes, that's exactly what it was. It was sound.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

And that was another one we we didn't pick. Gotta remember to pick those next year. Um Ludwig Gorenson got, you know, we were talking about him being the darling of uh the darling of the Oscars. He he got another one with uh score um for uh uh Sinners, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:39

Yep, for Sinners and and and just like I predicted, they split that category, they gave him the score, and they gave K-pop Demon Hunters the the song.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Right. Um so what else did that leave? Um Paul Thomas Anderson as director. Um it was it was cool that that MBJ got that best actor so that so that Kugler got his and Michael B. Jordan got his. So so you you can't call Sinners Oscar campaign unsuccessful. They got they got two real big awards and they also picked up some other stuff, right? Didn't she didn't yeah, they they got cinematography, so they got the first female cinematographer ever. Um they got score, um, so that's pretty good. And I think that's it. So they got so they got four. Yeah, I think it was seven to four. So certainly not terrible, and you know that Kugler will be around and making movies. He's he's gonna have, you know, a blank check. His time will come. Um, yeah, he'll he'll get it for sure. And it's nice that uh I thought it was funny. I mean, do you remember what PT Anderson said when he finally when he finally got when he finally got I think the director won aware? He's like, he's like, y'all really make a guy work hard to get this thing.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Dude, how about how about the girl that won for the for his movie earlier was like said, I got an I got my Oscar before you did.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Yes, yes, that was great. Yeah, she's like, I got mine before I had an Oscar before PTA. Yeah, that was great. And one bottle battle picks up the uh best picture win. You guys both had it. I was gonna pick it as well. I had it as should, and I went ahead and said, Oh, screw it, I'll give it to Sinners to make this contest more interesting.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

So yeah, so what is so obviously Mark won. He ran away with it. So what what did what did the final standings end up being?

SPEAKER_01 40:38

Um I wrote it down here in our thing. Um I was in last, I went nine, I went nine and ten. I got n I got nine out of nineteen. Uh you got eleven out of nineteen. Mark only picked in 16 categories and he nailed 14 of them. So do the do the percentages if you really want to know like how how the standings looked. Uh, but as far as you and I go, you beat me 11 and 9. So, but uh, but I will say that that uh I I would have picked one battle, but didn't to keep things interesting. The rest of it, I'd say so you but I still would have beat you by one. Yeah, you would have got me by one. Well, there was there was another place in there where I was like, ah, screw it, I'll just take blah blah blah to be contrary. But I'll give it to you. You won, fair and square. Um yeah, but it was it was certainly very fun.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

It was fun having me in in the in the cycling fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

So that one we have we have no idea how that's gonna play out. It's a it's a season-long competition. Um but uh but yeah, it made it way more fun. It was the whole thing was a whole lot of fun. Um as I said last week at the be at the beginning of our uh uh show, they could certainly shorten it a little bit. You know, it could it could use the show the the season, I should say. They could they could they could bump it up earlier in the in the season, and that would be fine because like I'm so ready to be done talking about all these movies. Um, but a lot of fun nonetheless.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

All right. That's gonna do it for this week. We thank you for uh going on this Oscar's journey with us. Thank you again to Mark Schaefer for joining us for the predictions and congratulations on the win. And we'll see you guys next week.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

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